CCSD South County Redistricting

2011 South County Redistricting Forum
The first public forum regarding the upcoming redistricting is scheduled for Tuesday, May 17, 2011
at 6:30 pm. at Campbell High School
Click here to view the live broadcast online

Public Comment Wall
Find out what other members of the community are saying
about the the 2011 Redistricting Plan.

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Angela | Teasley
Will existing students be "grandfathered in" and allowed to continue at their school even if they are redistricted out of that school? In what case will they be allowed to do so?

Heather Nance | Harmony Leland
Please leave my neighborhood, Vinings Vintage (Ivey Road off Queen Mill) in the HLES district My son is very happy there and we have many neighbors that are as well. Thank you.

Maureen | Teasley
Wakefield Estates on the East side of Atlanta Rd. South of Paces Ferry as well as everything else on the East Side of Atlanta Rd. South of Paces Ferry Rd. Need to be put back into to Teasley School District. It does not make any sence at all that theses areas that are within 1-2 miles depending if you just go down Spring Hill Rd. or go Around Paces Ferry Rd, to Spring Hill Rd. Are not in Teasley by in Nickajack. We are so far away from Nickajack, it It also makes no sense that this area was pulled out because John Weiland wanted his Subdivision back in the late 1980's Heritage at Vinings put into Teasley. The Area North of Ridge Rd. on The West side of Atlanta Rd, should go to the new Smyrna School. This has never made sense that they go to Teasley and not those of us who live on the East side of Atlanta Rd and in Subdivisions that touch Paces Ferry Park. We could walk along the Silver Comet Trail to Teasley. We could take the same bus that goes to Paces Ferry Park Subdivision. You could save money on transportation. The Bus came all the way from Nickajack for only 3-4 kids. There would be more kids in the public school if it was zoned to Teasley. Look at the Map it looks Gerrymandered.

James | Teasley
We moved to Teasley for the programs and level of education. We selected our neighborhood because of Teasley and have worked extremely hard with the school to make it what it is. The after school program, math and science, Lego league and other programs are what make it unique, and the neighborhood and it's students/parents have helped establish this gain and benefit. To move our kids to a school farther away, into deeper traffic patterns, and away from the same highway many of us use to get to work each day. Overall, many of us love our school and situation. This is very apparent from one of the earlier comments made by a parent who directly acknowledged our neighborhood and their envious feelings. My only hope is that similar parents don't make the issue of redistricting a personal attack based on previous decisions.

Stacie | Teasley
Per our earlier comments, I feel it's important to state that we live at Heritage at Vinings and are against redistricting based on test scores, programs, traffic patterns and location !

Susanne McAbee | Nickajack
My daughter has had a wonderful Kindergarten year at NES!! It is a wonderful school!!! Please keep the Vinings Estates subdivision going to Nickajack.

Missy | Clarkdale
Although it won't be popular, the redistricting should be done across the entire S Cobb area. Most of the schools over capacity are on the east side & upper middle, and there are schools with excess space on the west side & right middle - exactly where Clarkdale and Mableton are coming in with more space. You should start with a clean slate for everyone and get rid of the gerrymandered zoning. If not, you'll still have excess students in trailers at Milford, etc which the new schools aren't doing anything to relieve.

sam | Argyle
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Lori | Harmony Leland
Neighborhood: Enclave at Oakdale on Oakdale Road in City of Smyrna but zoned to Mableton school (Harmony Leland Elementary) - Neighbors are in favor of rezoning and would like for our neighborhood to be rezoned into a City of Smyrna school district. We live in the City of Smyrna and pay City of Smyrna taxes. We understand that Smyrna taxes do not go directly to the schools but we do think we should be zoned to attend schools that are in our community/City. We think it would get more parents involved and the community involved if our children actually attended schools that were located in the City that we live in. - Secondly, we need to be represented by our elected official who has all of our schools in their district. We are currently represented by Tim Stultz on the school board. The problem with this is that the elementary school that we are zoned in is NOT represented by Tim Stultz. Harmony Leland is actually in David Morgan's zone. I personally think it is a huge issue that we are represented by an elected official who does not even have our elementary school in his zone. I think we would be much better served by having all of our schools in the same district as our elected school board member.

Frida | Harmony Leland
Harmony-Leland is not a bad school and has many government funded programs that more of us should take advantage of....HOWEVER there is an exposure issue which blossoms even more throughout our current feeder pattern and that is why we are no longer attending our district school. We would love to have the Retreat at Old Vinings Lake fall into the Nickajack feeder pattern (Griffin and Campbell). I think it is very important to be in a school where similar family values and parent effort / involvement are more balanced. There are a handful of parents that are involved at our district school, majority from the Retreat at Old Vinings Lake. Its hard for parents to connect with each other based on these differences in family values making it even harder for the children to connect. And when you have that type of community wide, school disconnection you cannot form a cohesive platform that GROWS. Thousands of dollars are being pumped into private schools from this neighboorhood, dollars that could be supporting a public school -- but we need that community school connection and it just doesn't exist here at the Retreat. And we aren't just talking schools, we're talking financial down turn for property owners in our neighborhood and will continue to suffer for at least the next 5 years. Please rezone the Retreat at Old Vinings Lake into the Nickajack feeder pattern of Griffin and Campbell. Good families are leaving on the basis of bad schools, we need a change!

Kate | Milford
I understand that you need to hear from the entire community. I do think that it is important to note that only one of the people at the meeting who made comments regarding Milford actually has a student that attends Milford. Their children actually attend other schools.

Anonymous | Nickajack
I'm in the Stoneybrook Subdivision between Vinings Estates and the Retreat. So far I've seen postings from both neighborhoods supporting Nickajack, and I'm in the same boat. Our daughter attended 1st grade this year, and we've been quite pleased with the school. If this were put to a vote, I would stand in line forever and vote for our neighborhood to stay in Nickajack. Adding the Retreat neighborhood would also further strengthen the financial support for Nickajack and hopefully Griffin. I believe King Springs and Nickajack are providing a solid foundation for the future of Griffin. If you add the Retreat neighborhood, this would also benefit Griffin. I'm tired of seeing good friends and neighbors moving to east cobb. Let's continue to improve these Smyrna and Mableton schools! Bring on the Retreat!

Mrs. Smith | Teasley
I do not know why they are asking for our opinion. This board does whatever they want anyway.

Eric | Nickajack
We live in Vinings Springs, which is nestled between Vinings Estates and Stoneybrook. One of the primary reasons we purchased our home in Vinings Springs is because of the school district in which it is located. Our children are not of school age yet, but we researched the area and found Nickajack to be an up-and-coming school with growing support from the community. It is my hope that the Board will not disrupt the "Cooper Lake Community" and will leave Vinings Estates, Vinings Springs, Stoneybrook, and the Retreat in the Nickajack district. It is best for our children and their development and education, and any decision to the contrary - including the disruption of the Community by removing it from Nickajack - is a shameful dereliction of duty.

NEP | Nickajack
We are zoned for NES and right on the border of Teasley. Our child might have an IEP for the first year at NES. Parents of children with existing IEP (or even Special needs) should have the choice to stay at original school or move to the "new" zoned area. NES has a wonderful staff and would be disappointed if we had a great year at NES and then left to start all over in another school. Please plan, consider, all in the best interest of the children. Also, PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE get these scores up so people want to send their kids to Public School!

NEP | Nickajack
I should add we are in Olde Vinings Registry

Tim | Fair Oaks
Im not sure why the districts even ask parents what they want, they just do what THEY see fit, not what everyone else sees fit. And if you look when you submit this, the submit is spellled sumbit. Nice

Anonomous | Brown
I think Brown Elem. should stay where it is. The staff at Brown all know the children & their parents. You even see custodians & Lunchrom Staff on their own time helping students with their reading & homework. Also the small class size is great for some of the students. Every one at Brown is dedicated to the children.

Anonomous | Brown
I think Brown Elem. should stay where it is. The staff at Brown all know the children & their parents. You even see custodians & Lunchrom Staff on their own time helping students with their reading & homework. Also the small class size is great for some of the students. Every one at Brown is dedicated to the children.

MM | Clay
We are very happy with the hidden jewel of a school at Clay Elementary. The staff, the instruction, enrichment programs, most everything is great. However, the building is very old and and bordering on dilapidation. Not to mention that there are 12+ trailers out front, causing even more of an eyesore. I agree that all of the lines need to be re-drawn. We pass 4 elementary schools on our way from home to get to Clay - it doesn't make any sense. Send kids to the schools closest to their homes and make ALL schools a place that families want to send their children! We shouldn't have to live in a particular neighborhood to have the best for our kids. Parents, it is, and always has been, up to us to require that! Get involved at your local school and make it what you want it to be for all of our children!!

Teacher | Fair Oaks
Fair Oaks is a wonderful school, centrally located with a multi-cultural population. The school is one in which anyone can feel comfortable...everyone works hard and wants the best for all students. IF redistricting is necessary, and it benefits ALL students and is done in an equitable and reasonable manner...then everyone should be just fine!

S. T. | Sanders
MM, I totally agree with you. There should be no reason a parent should have to pass even one school on the way to their zoned school. We live in close proximity to Mableton Elementary. I would like for my daughter go to that school for that reason; It just makes more sense. Please consider zoning more residents off Clay Rd. from Sanders to Mableton Ele.

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Mableton Resident | Mableton
As a Mableton resident, I would like to see my neighborhood off of Brookwood Drive redistricted from Sanders ES (in Austell zip code) to Mableton ES. I think this is important in terms of growing a sense of community. My home is also closer to Mableton ES than Sanders ES...yet our current district is Sanders. Please take into consideration the long-term plan of revitalizing the Mableton community when the redistricting plan is drawn.

Sean Durity | Mableton
My daughter is moving to Austell Intermediate next year because that is where the severe/profound class is for our area. But it is almost 30 minutes from our home in Mableton. We need a SID/PID class at Mableton or Smyrna for 2012-13.

Bob | Nickajack
The school board will NOT listen to the public. You will be wasting your time. I know from experience.

Linda | Sky View
I see no good reason to spend as much money, 17 plus million, on one school when we have perfectly good smaller schools for our children. I can understand making a better school in Mableton, but please do not close down our schools in the process. We love all the staff at Skyview and we would like to see their continued employment there. We are suppose to be creating more jobs and if we close down these schools we will not be succeeding...we will be failing not only the staff, but the children as well. I mean 17 million plus dollars could really do a lot of improvements to many schools and not just the one. It does not make good sense no matter how you look at it. How about making a new high school and rezoning Pebblebook instead? Now that would make sense...

Bernadette | Teasley
The Heritage at Vinings subdivision should remain in the Teasley school district. This makes obvious sense in terms of traffic patterns. In addition, there is a long and well-established pattern of cooperation betwen Teasley and Heritage at Vinings. It would be a shame and a travesty to disregard the deep sense of service and commitment our neighborhood has shown to Teasley Elementary.

S.T. | Sanders
Sorry, this is S.T. again. To be more specific, we live in Mableton but zoned for Sanders (Austell). Mableton ES. is also closer to our subdivision off Clay Rd. Please consider making the change from Sanders to Mableton ES.

Nandu | Harmony Leland
'Enclave at Okadale' on Oakdale rd is our subdivision and we pay city of Smyrna taxes every year but we are assigned to Harmony Leland.We should be zoned to attend out schools in our community. we need to be represented by our elected official who has all of our schools in their district. We are currently represented by Tim Stultz on the school board. The problem with this is that the elementary school(HL) that we are zoned in is NOT represented by Tim Stultz. Harmony Leland is actually in David Morgan's zone. I believe it is a huge issue that we are represented by an elected official who does not even have our elementary school in his zone. This is affecting hundreds of our lives. Please consider our voices and rezone us.

Michael | Harmony Leland
We live off Oakdale Road about a mile north of Veterans Memorial (Riverline Hill Subdivision) and, similar to prior commenters, are officially inside the City of Smyrna and pay Smyrna taxes, yet we are in a Mableton school zone (Harmony Leland). I completely agree with those prior commenters (and so do a lot of other neighbors)...a portion of one of those posts is copied below to reiterate the point: "We are in favor of rezoning and would like for our neighborhood to be rezoned into a City of Smyrna school district. We live in the City of Smyrna and pay City of Smyrna taxes. We understand that Smyrna taxes do not go directly to the schools but we do think we should be zoned to attend schools that are in our community/City. We think it would get more parents involved and the community involved if our children actually attended schools that were located in the City that we live in. - Secondly, we need to be represented by our elected official who has all of our schools in their district. We are currently represented by Tim Stultz on the school board. The problem with this is that the elementary school that we are zoned in is NOT represented by Tim Stultz. Harmony Leland is actually in David Morgan's zone. I personally think it is a huge issue that we are represented by an elected official who does not even have our elementary school in his zone. I think we would be much better served by having all of our schools in the same district as our elected school board member."

Erin | Sky View
It would be a same to redistrict the area around Sky View Elementry. In a time where test scores and making AYP is a constant battle, here is a small school that is continuing to make improvements with it's students in a small setting. Our Principle Culter is amazing with our students and making sure that their needs are met. We also have a counselor that is amazing with the students at our school, Mr. Pearson not only creates an enviroment that is welcoming but feels like family. Please consider that bigger isn't always better.

Essie | Riverside Intermediate
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Chris | Nickajack
I agree that you should vote for the person who represents your schools. If you look at the maps, that's not always possible right now since some elementary schools currently feed into multiple middle schools; let's hope the rezoning can take care of this issue. I don't understand how paying City of Smyrna taxes is relevant to Cobb County zoning. Some of the students attending Nickajack Elementary a "Smyrna" school live in Mableton, yet do not pay city of Smyrna taxes. (Stoneybrook neighborhood, for example.) I am not saying that Stoneybrook should be rezoned out of Nickajack, only that paying taxes to city of Smyrna is not and should not be a consideration when determining a school's zone. The two issues are completely unrelated.

Liz | King Springs
I have a young son, not yet school-aged, and have been paying close attention to the school situation. Please, please, please consider the younger kids in this rezoning process -- we don't want to go through this again in a few years! Generally, I think homes should be zoned to the school closest to them. That said, however, I think it's essential to keep neighborhoods together, to encourage community involvement and to make it easier for families to carpool, etc. The South Cobb area has many strong schools, and I hope the board will use this opportunity to clear up some of the nonsensical zoning now and build a community-focused zoning map. Community involvement is really what makes or breaks a school, and this redistricting process is a great opportunity for the district to foster that involvement.

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Parent | Nickajack
If I pay city of Smyrna taxes, I want my children to go to a City of Smyna school, not a Mableton school.

Sandy | Nickajack
I would like to repeat Eric's statement...well said! We live in Vinings Springs, which is nestled between Vinings Estates and Stoneybrook. One of the primary reasons we purchased our home in Vinings Springs is because of the school district in which it is located. We researched the area and found Nickajack to be an up-and-coming school with growing support from the community. It is my hope that the Board will not disrupt the "Cooper Lake Community" and will leave Vinings Estates, Vinings Springs, and Stoneybrook in the Nickajack district. It is best for our children and their development and education, and any decision to the contrary - including the disruption of the Community by removing it from Nickajack - is a shameful dereliction of duty.

Kris | Brown
In the end we need to realize it is what benefits ALL children. Years ago I sat on the committee to make recommendations to the board as to how the new Nickajack school would look zonewise. There were many apprehensive parents "Don't change my school district!" A few years later, Nickajack was a thriving community that most were proud to be a part of. However the redistricting works out, parents need to realize that their commitment to their school can be the catalyst to its success. Get involved!

Susan | Teasley
The estimated timeframe for the "Redistricting Map Development" is Summer - September. Does that mean the re-zoning will be announced and final at that point in time? What exactly does "Subsequent Redistricting Forums with redistricting maps" from September - December mean? Additional detail on this extremely vague wording would be appreciated. Private schools applications are due late Fall and I am sure I am not the only one making my public vs. private school decision based on the final re-zoning decisions.

dave | Birney
Don't bother leaving your concerns. This particular school board doesn't care about anything except the tourism industry as evidenced by the change of the school year with no regard to public wishes, decreases in absences by students and teachers, or even waiting to find out if CRCT scores had been impacted by the calander change.

MMM | Brown
In light of the purpose of the New Smyrna Replacement School, which is to eliminate portables being used as classrooms for our children, I hope the school board will take into consideration ALL schools in the Smyrna area that currently have portables(such as, Argyle, Belmont Hills, King Springs and Teasley)or are at their maximum capacity or exceeding it (such as Brown and Nickajack). If the true purpose of this 22 million dollar school is to alleviate over crowding and the usage of portables, then ALL Smyrna schools need to be taken into consideration for the redistricting process, not just Brown, Argyle and Belmont.

Jacqueline | Clay
The purpose of redistricting is to eliminate portable classrooms. Argyle and Clay has the most portable classrooms. Start there. If the people in Smryna are paying Smryna taxes, their children should attend a Smyrna school and vice-versa for Mableton. It is refreshing to hear comments from parents that love their schools.

Mechell | Hollydale
No gerrymandering please. This has to STOP, start with a clean slate. Think of the many children and families this will affect.

Jean | Argyle
I would like to know how many jobs might be lost because of this. Thank You

sunsetblues2 | Fair Oaks
Has anyone thought about what will occur after July 1, 2011? Many Hispanic families will flee the area because of an unconstitutional law passed by Mr. Deal. This will have an impact on the class size of schools located mostly in the southern region of Cobb County. Less students...less teachers.

Anonymous | Harmony Leland
My family lives in the Retreat at Old Vinings Lake subdivision and would respectfully ask that our subdivision be rezoned to Nickajack. We are less than a mile from Stoneybrook and find that we share the same passion, commitment and involvement to our children’s education as the parents at Stoneybrook and communities further north on Cooper Lake Road. The Retreat is a close-knit community with a significant number of families with small children; and parents who are active participants in our children’s schools. Based on the similarity of family values, parental involvement and the effort that parents put forth in the education of their children, Nickajack would be a better fit for our families. Because we are zoned for Harmony-Leland a great number of families are fleeing the subdivision: either taking a tremendous financial hit to sell or lease their homes, thus driving down property values. If parents aren’t in a position to sell, they are putting their children in private schools. If we were rezoned for Nickajack, I am confident that a large number of families would stay at The Retreat and invest in our public school, strengthening the financial support and increasing the parental involvement level at Nickajack as well as Griffin in the coming years.

Donna R | Nickajack
Our family recently moved to StoneyBrook from Smyrna because we were still in the Nickajack school district. I would be devastated if our school was redistricted out. Nickajack has been wonderful for our son who thrived there. I will do whatever I have to do to keep him there even if I have the carry him on piggy back. PLEASE KEEP STONEYBROOK IN NICKAJACK.

anonymous | Harmony Leland
It would be nice to have these comments addressed

Keith | Teasley
I think all the neighborhoods currently zoned for Teasley should ‘STAY’ in the Teasley district. There is a very simple case study for what will happen if existing Teasley neighborhoods are rezoned. For example, what happens to kids that complete 5th grade at Teasley? The parents move to a new neighborhood or they go to private school for middle school! I realize that is not 100% true but very close. This would kill the progress that the City of Smyrna has accomplished in turning around Smyrna and Atlanta Rd.

Sonny | Clarkdale
I must agree with Missy as this, even as insensitive as it seems, MUST at last be said! I know I am not alone in this opinion; many people are just too afraid to speak out. It makes no sense at all that Clarkdale is being rebuilt. It got flooded, destroyed, end of story. Plenty of room for those students to fit into schools on the west side of the county and some of those schools aren't even very old. Save the money not only for the building of the school, but staffing, running buses, and paying utilities for it as well. I feel very sorry for Copper MS having to put up with a school wedged into their backyard. Redistrict the Clarkdale children into existing schools! Then continue to redistrict students from overcrowded schools into those with empty classrooms.

Get to the point | Nickajack
Nickajack is a great school but the low test scores are a direct result of the student mix who attend the school. This school needs more kids from the community of homes in it's surrounding area so that the test scores can improve. Perhaps rezoning will make this better? Then we can send our kids to the local public school instead of moving out or going the private school route.

Christine | Argyle
I am very excited about the new school and welcome a redistricting. As a parent in the Argyle school district I am very concerned about my child starting school there in the next few years. I have heard nothing but horror stories about Argyle in its present state. First off it is very over crowded: 300+ over capacity for a total of 600+ students according to the Estimated Over/Under Cap for 2013. I am a homeowner in A30 and speaking with my neighbors, most are doing all they can to keep their children from attending Argyle school in its current state because our neighborhood does not really mesh with the current zoning. My neighbors are sending their children to private school (if they can afford it in this economy) renting out, or even foreclosing on their homes so they can get in another zone. There are, at the very least, 20 babies and toddlers in my neighborhood that will be school age in the next 1-5 years. I would really like to see more homes grouped together in the new school zoning. Also morning traffic heading to Argyle is horrible for anyone past Campbell Rd heading east on Spring Rd toward the interstate in the mornings. On a normal school day traffic can be backed up past the Village Pkwy moving at a snails pace. You can also see this is not the case when school is out for summer, traffic on Spring moves much smoother. I feel that by having all the communities west of Campbell Rd heading toward Atlanta Rd zoned in a school that would allow them to drive west on Spring would help very much with both the school traffic and general morning commute for everyone. I mean if you look at the high concentration of elementary school age children on Campbell and east of, you easily have enough to fill Argyle. I also want to say I really appreciate the board providing this wall to allow community feedback in the decision of the redistricting. I have lived in Cobb County my whole life and attended Cobb schools. It is really nice to be presented the opportunity to have my voice easily heard. Thanks!

Parent | Nickajack
This school comes with mixed comments from parents all over the area. I live in Vinings Estates and do not have my child as school age for another 2 years. The test scores are very poor for the County average and are way under expectations given the resources in the community. However, most of my neighbors are sending their children to private schools due to these scores. If our subdivision alone sent all of its children to Nickajack, the school would be overcrowded overnight. It would make sense that the redistricting needs to consider the subdivisions along the "Cooper Lake Corridor". These are nice communities that wish to send the kids to good schools like those in East Cobb. The only way to do this is to engage all parents who have children in the district but send them to private schools. With a down economy, private school is becoming an impossible option for many parents. I would hope the board would take this into account as the tax money (which is heavily taxed by City of Smyrna) in our neighborhood climbs. The Board gets a free ride from these communities even though most don't send their children to public schools. These kids need to go to school with one another and give the parents a chance to save for college instead of 3rd Grade. I hope others in Vinings Estates and surrounding subdivisions will band together to redistrict and get involved in the school.

crystal | Nickajack
I live in EastGate at Vinings Estates (off Pebblebrook Rd). We pay HOA dues to Vinings Estates, we use the recreational facilities, we participate in social functions, our children are on the same swim teams, tennis teams, etc. And yet, we have been zoned into a different school district than the rest of our neighborhood. We are zoned into Harmony Leland, while the rest of our neighborhood is zoned to Nickajack. Many of the children in our neighborhood are entering school age now and it is our desire to have them attend the same public school with the rest of our community. Due to the separation, many parents (myself included) are putting their children into private schools, when they would much rather take advantage of our public school system. Others are fleeing (and taking ridiculously low prices for their homes) in order to secure a more stable community and school system for their families. I know that zoning can be difficult, but the division of our neighborhood (and community) should be fixed.

Amy | Teasley
I would like to request the Heritage at Vinings neighborhood remain in the Teasley district. I have one child attending Teasley now with 2 more ready for school in a few years. A comparison of test scores among Teasley, Argyle, Brown, and Belmont Hills reveals Teasley as significantly outperforming the others. My ultimate goal is to obtain the best education possible for my children. To be removed from a school that has excellent scores and placed with any mix of students from these 3 not as well performing (and in the case of 1, a significantly under-performing school) is not a step in the right direction. As a board member of the Teasley PAWS foundation I can also say that a very large number of ACTIVE parent volunteers at Teasley come from our neighborhood, as well as the Devonshire and Oak Ridge Estates neighborhoods. Removal of any of these neighborhoods from Teasley would significantly hurt the school. Schools are successful in a large part due to it's parental support. It would be a shame to take away the supportive base of a strong school. Thank you for your consideration.

Parent | Russell
My child will be going to Kennesaw Mountain High School. We've heard somethings about our subdivision being transfered to the Hillgrove district. My child feels that she will be more successful at Hillgrove. Send her to Hillgrove!

Rosalyn | Clarkdale
Rebuilding Clarkdale is an excellent idea. It is not fair for those children in the Clarkdale district to be treated as second class students at two other schools. They have been flooded out of their classrooms twice in less than 2 years. (The children at Clarkdale at Compton had to evacuate their portable unit classrooms for 2 weeks due to flooding this spring.) Those children deserve a school of their own. Cooper MS had an overabundance of land that was not utilized by the school; that's why the new Clarkdale is being built there. The Clarkdale children and faculty should not be split to the four winds because the district doesn't want to give them a true school home.

Susana | Harmony Leland
I live in EastGate at Vinings Estates. We pay HOA dues to Vinings Estates, we use the recreational facilities, we participate in social functions, our children are on the same swim teams, tennis teams, etc. And yet, we have been zoned into a different school district than the rest of our neighborhood. We are zoned into Harmony Leland, while the rest of our neighborhood is zoned to Nickajack. Many of the children in our neighborhood are entering school age now and it is our desire to have them attend the same public school with the rest of our community. Due to the separation, many parents are putting their children into private schools, when they would much rather take advantage of our public school system. Others are fleeing (and taking ridiculously low prices for their homes) in order to secure a more stable community and school system for their families. I know that zoning can be difficult, but the division of our neighborhood (and community) should be fixed.

Katie Hardison | Harmony Leland
I live in EastGate at Vinings Estates (off Pebblebrook Rd). We pay HOA dues to Vinings Estates, we use the recreational facilities, we participate in social functions, our children are on the same swim teams, tennis teams, etc. And yet, we have been zoned into a different school district than the rest of our neighborhood. We are zoned into Harmony Leland, while the rest of our neighborhood is zoned to Nickajack. Many of the children in our neighborhood are entering school age now and it is our desire to have them attend the same public school with the rest of our community. Due to the separation, many parents (myself included) are putting their children into private schools, when they would much rather take advantage of our public school system. Others are fleeing (and taking ridiculously low prices for their homes) in order to secure a more stable community and school system for their families. I know that zoning can be difficult, but the division of our neighborhood (and community) should be fixed.

Tanya Kothari | Harmony Leland
I live in EastGate at Vinings Estates (off Pebblebrook Rd). We pay HOA dues to Vinings Estates, we use the recreational facilities, we participate in social functions, our children are on the same swim teams, tennis teams, etc. And yet, we have been zoned into a different school district than the rest of our neighborhood. We are zoned into Harmony Leland, while the rest of our neighborhood is zoned to Nickajack. Many of the children in our neighborhood are entering school age now and it is our desire to have them attend the same public school with the rest of our community. Due to the separation, many parents (myself included) are putting their children into private schools, when they would much rather take advantage of our public school system. Others are fleeing (and taking ridiculously low prices for their homes) in order to secure a more stable community and school system for their families. I know that zoning can be difficult, but the division of our neighborhood (and community) should be fixed.

Elizabeth Seymour | Harmony Leland
I live in EastGate at Vinings Estates (off Pebblebrook Rd). We pay HOA dues to Vinings Estates, we use the recreational facilities, we participate in social functions, our children are on the same swim teams, tennis teams, etc. And yet, we have been zoned into a different school district than the rest of our neighborhood. We are zoned into Harmony Leland, while the rest of our neighborhood is zoned to Nickajack. Many of the children in our neighborhood are entering school age now and it is our desire to have them attend the same public school with the rest of our community. Due to the separation, many parents (myself included) are putting their children into private schools, when they would much rather take advantage of our public school system. Others are fleeing (and taking ridiculously low prices for their homes) in order to secure a more stable community and school system for their families. I know that zoning can be difficult, but the division of our neighborhood (and community) should be fixed.

Parent of EastGate @ Vinings Estate | Harmony Leland
As a resident of EastGate at Vinings Estate, I, too, would like to see our subdivision redistricted into Nickajack, Griffin, and Campbell High School. This is the case with the main portion of our subdivision, Vinings Estates. It does not make sense that we are in different school districts for our children. Hope this is corrected very soon.

Renee | Teasley
I don't think the zoning in Smyrna School District makes any since. My daughter has been at Teasley for two years and we love it. Unfortunaley I had to move to a new location which is one mile around the corner from where I was staying and now she has to go to Nickajack which I think is ridiculous. I was very disappointed about this but as of right now it can't be helped. I think the apartments on Cumberland Blvd. should be going to Teasley as they are right around the corner.

Teacher | Teasley
I just wanted to comment on the fact that some of the comments made are very valid and stress honest concerns. However, I am embarrassed when I read the comments of parents who imply that their schools are brought down by students who come from single parent homes and live in apartments. I teach and I have taught high excelling students from broken homes as well as low achieving students who come from "good" homes with two parents. Implying that your school needs students who come from "homes" in order to have successful test scores is racist and stereotypical. It is speaking volumes that you do not believe that all children CAN learn.

Amy Bergstrom | Harmony Leland
I live in EastGate at Vinings Estates (off Pebblebrook Rd). We pay HOA dues to Vinings Estates, we use the recreational facilities, we participate in social functions, our children are on the same swim teams, tennis teams, etc. And yet, we have been zoned into a different school district than the rest of our neighborhood. We are zoned into Harmony Leland, while the rest of our neighborhood is zoned to Nickajack. Many of the children in our neighborhood are entering school age now and it is our desire to have them attend the same public school with the rest of our community. Due to the separation, many parents (myself included) are putting their children into private schools, when they would much rather take advantage of our public school system. Others are fleeing (and taking ridiculously low prices for their homes) in order to secure a more stable community and school system for their families. I know that zoning can be difficult, but the division of our neighborhood (and community) should be fixed.

Jason Bergstrom | Harmony Leland
I live in EastGate at Vinings Estates (off Pebblebrook Rd). We pay HOA dues to Vinings Estates, we use the recreational facilities, we participate in social functions, our children are on the same swim teams, tennis teams, etc. And yet, we have been zoned into a different school district than the rest of our neighborhood. We are zoned into Harmony Leland, while the rest of our neighborhood is zoned to Nickajack. Many of the children in our neighborhood are entering school age now and it is our desire to have them attend the same public school with the rest of our community. Due to the separation, many parents (myself included) are putting their children into private schools, when they would much rather take advantage of our public school system. Others are fleeing (and taking ridiculously low prices for their homes) in order to secure a more stable community and school system for their families. I know that zoning can be difficult, but the division of our neighborhood (and community) should be fixed.

King | Clay
Many of the comments make very little sense; East Gate isn't districted with the rest of Vinings Estates because it's 5 minutes from Harmony Leland, and 2-4 minutes from either Lindley campus. The back half of Vinings Estates should be districted to Harmony Leland as well, but the board tried its best not to separate the primary part of the subdivision. The Retreat is less than a mile from Harmony Leland--why on earth would these kids need to ride a bus 15-20 minutes north to Nickajack? Similarly, the communities on Oakdale, though in the City of Smyrna, are far closer to Harmony Leland than Nickajack. Instead of worrying about forming a 'sense of community' around other schools, why not create a community... in your own community? The schools all throughout the South Cobb area are great, and can all be greater if we each invest in the schools in our back yard, instead of drooling over private schools or those in East Cobb. The only redrawing that needs to be done is to ensure that no student lives closer to a school they don't attend. Once that's done, we as a group of communities need to band together and create the great schools that our youth deserve.

Dana Cook | Nickajack
I live in EastGate also, pay HOA dues to Vinings Estates, use the recreational facilities, we participate in social functions, our children are on the same swim teams, tennis teams, etc., and I am in a play group with Vinings Estates. It does not make sense that we should be zoned into a different school district than the rest of our neighborhood. Our children should be attending the same public school with the rest of our community. I know that zoning can be difficult, but the division of our neighborhood (and community) should be fixed. Like many others, we bought in Eastgate at Vinings Estates to be a part of the Vinings Estates community and sharing a school with that community is a prime example of that shared community.

K Huguely | Harmony Leland
As a resident of East Gate, I too am very frustrated that we are not zoned for Nickajack Elementary as the rest of the broader neighborhood is. We pay HOA fees to Vinings Estates and utilize all of the amenities and facilities that come along with that. However, we are zoned for Harmony Leland. Due to the separation of zoning lines and the fact that my child could not go to school with the rest of her neighbors/friends, we along with many of my neighbors, have chosen to put her and her siblings in private school. Of course, being able to receive a quality education from her local public school would be ideal, but at this time we don't feel the overt separation warrants us changing schools.

Anonymous | Nickajack
We live in Riverline Hills subdivion on Oakdale Rd. we would love to have our kids go to Nickajack Elementory. please consider this while redistricting.

anonymous | Brown
Please consider placing the Collier Gate Court subdivision into Teasley and out of Brown.

Jen | Nickajack
It would be refreshing to see The Board vote in favor of its consituants on this issue. We have been grieved by the recent decision regarding this year's school calendar. That being said I too have a child at Nickajack with another getting ready to start next year and I would hate to see the redistricting affect the Cooper Hills area across from Stoneybrook. Please keep my children together and not disrupt the progress made, it would not be in the best interests of my oldest to change schools.

Nannette | Clarkdale
I am so glad that Clarkdale will be rebuilt. I only wish it were sooner. I opted not to send my children to the alternatives and sent them both to Sanders which I feel now in hindsight was not the best decision. As a parent the ideal situation is to have siblings attend the same school and have a sense of normalcy. The disruption these kids faced should not be endured by any family so once again thank you to all of the supporters of rebuilding Clarkdale.

Cobb Mom of 4 | Harmony Leland
Putting your kids into private school rather than sending them to Harmony Leland seems to be exactly what the school district wants. They will still get your property tax dollars and don't have to worry about your children crowding an already overcrowded school. A better tactic might be to enroll your children, en masse, at Harmony Leland and then make the school administration answerable to your needs. If there are better programs at Nickajack then bring those programs to Harmony Leland. You can do this as an involved parent, but you can't do this as a private school parent asking the school board to do something that is not in its own best interest. Keep in mind that there will always be poor kids in public school and there will always be minorities in public schools.

very involved parent | Harmony Leland
An earlier posting stated that we should all go to closest schools and that will solve everything, I disagree. There is a fundamental issue here and it all boils down to using economics as an excuse to not receiving equal educational opportunties for the children of south cobb. I'm tired of south cobb getting the shorter end with schools not making AYP. I'm tired of having my kids as guinea pigs while the rest of east cobb students are getting a leg up. The real world that I want my kids to compete in is at a much higher level in terms of education and opportunities that although my tax dollars are paying for, my kids can't even taste! Yes there are poor people EVERYWHERE, but here's reality -- the poor people in third world countries are getting better education than our kids, those "poor" people are the ones are children will be competing against. So let's all get away with I can't believe so and so won't go to nearest public school, they must not like poor people, instead figure out how to get EQUAL education regardless of demographics!!

AN | Hollydale
Please redistrict the subdivisions on Powder Springs Rd. to Hillgrove or McCearchan and NOT Osborne. These high schools are closer and does not make sense that we should travel further for such a low performing school. School board is not trying to make any improvements to aid Osborne in improving the quality of education, which forces us to attend North Cobb or East Cobb schools.

stephanie killimett | Nickajack
My family and I live in East Gate at Vinings Estates and are requesting to have our neighborhood redistricted. East Gate at Vinings Estates is part of Vinings Estates...we share all amenities with Vinings Estates and pay HOA dues. However, we are zoned for different schools. Please consider redistricting East Gate at Vinings Estates to attend the same school as our additional neighborhood Vinings Estates. Thank you for your time!

Cobb Mom of 4 | Harmony Leland
Do East Cobb schools have a different curriculum, books, field trips, better equipped classrooms, etc than South Cobb schools? Is the curriculum watered down for South Cobb students? What are East Cobb students getting from the school system that South Cobb students are not?

Mom who pulled out | Hollydale
Cobb county school districts is a pro at economic discrimination. They draw the district lines according to the taxes that the school will receive. And yes not all schools have the same curriculum or the same funding. Funding is determind by the amount of property taxes collected. They have decided it is acceptable to sacrafice a few poor kids so they can district all the higher tax bracket neighborhoods into a few schools to produce award winning schools. Any time a district has the best and worst schools in the state you can be sure they are exploiting the kids and participating in economic discrimination. This means a few schools get all the higher taxes from those neighborhoods, and schools like Osborne are districted with only poor neighborhoods with Low tax base. This means they sacrafice the Osborne kids so schools like Hillgrove can build multimillion dollar fancy facility. Our neighborhood for example is the ONLY neighborhood on the right side of Powder Springs rd to be districted to Osborne. It also happens to be the oldest neighborhood on the right side of Powdersprings rd. Yet homes much further up powder springs are allowed to go to Hillgrove dispite the fact they live 1/2 mile further away from Hillgrove than we do. Just because they live in a newer subdivision. Cobb county also Sacrafices the kids by only allowing NCLB choice to schools that are at the furthest corners of the county over an hour from the homes of most children(Allatoona and Kennesaw Mountain). SO I have a choice force my kids to sit on a non air conditioned bus with bullies for an hour each way, or spend 4 hours a day commuteing to get my kids to school. And they limit parent choices by listing different schools on the choice form and then changing the choices at the last minute so they do not have to respect the parent choices. Cobb is a mess, I was forced to pull my children and enroll them in Georgia Cyber Acadamy (Online public school). Cobb county is a racist messed up school system and my kids deserve better. I am useing the online public school to educate my kids at home and their CRCT test scores are UP and they are thriving. But they miss being with other kids. Cobb county schools have robbed them of a decent education that my property tax dollars pay for.

Marie | Russell
Please just be honest parents. If you are white, you want your children to go to a predominantly white school. Stop beating around the bush and trying to be politically correct about it. Just be honest. All this talk about "homes with similar values" and so forth is just smoke and mirrors. Tell them what you really think. You live in a nice neighborhood and you feel that the children in your neighborhood deserve to go to school with children from nice neighborhoods too. It's not your fault that the children that live in the older neighborhoods or apartment buildings may not have as much money as you. Why should your children have to go to school with them, right? Encourage the board to continue dividing the districts along socioeconomic lines and be done with the whole thing.

Ferhana Haider | Harmony Leland
I live in EastGate at Vinings Estates (off Pebblebrook Rd). We pay HOA dues to Vinings Estates, we use the recreational facilities, we participate in social functions, our children are on the same swim teams, tennis teams, etc. And yet, we have been zoned into a different school district than the rest of our neighborhood. We are zoned into Harmony Leland, while the rest of our neighborhood is zoned to Nickajack. Many of the children in our neighborhood are entering school age now and it is our desire to have them attend the same public school with the rest of our community. Due to the separation, many parents (myself included) are putting their children into private schools, when they would much rather take advantage of our public school system. Others are fleeing (and taking ridiculously low prices for their homes) in order to secure a more stable community and school system for their families. I know that zoning can be difficult, but the division of our neighborhood (and community) should be fixed.

Jane | Harmony Leland
As a member of the Providence community, we would appreciate a better option for public school. The test scores for Harmony Leland are unacceptable and we are forced to send our children to private school. Please consider rezoning us for Mableton Elementary or Nickajack.

Cobb Mom of 4 | Harmony Leland
Approx. 70% of the students at Harmony Leland are eligible for Free or Reduced Lunch. This is the case even though there are numerous 300k to 400k subdivisions that are zoned for this school..East Gate, Enclave, Retreat, Vinings Place, Providence, Oakdale Rd Subdivisions, etc. Parents from these communities send their children to private school, rather than to Harmony Leland, yet they complain about the test scores and want to be zoned into Nickajack..... If 70% of the students are at poverty level and yet they managed to Meet or Exceed NCLB standards (as ridiculous as they are) then those students and the school are to be commended. Of course the scores could be higher...perhaps they would be if you sent your child there and became involved in the school. It is my understanding that the board can't make redistricting decisions based on socioeconomic status. As a parent I understand wanting the best education for your child, but you are not doing your child any favors by running away from reality.....minorities and poor people exist. Doesn't mean you can't get a great education just by being in close proximity. There are many excellent teachers at Harmony Leland. Don't be afraid to send your child there and get involved with the school. In no time at all Nickajack parents will be clamoring to come to Harmony Leland.

Mom of 3 | Hollydale
We live off powder springs rd and we are districted to Osborne instead of McEachern or Hillgrove. This is extremely unfortunate being that we are closer to the other schools.

CC | Russell
Our family is super-thrilled with Russell, and we feel if it isn't broke, don't fix it! Our ace-in-the-hole is that since money has been put into King Springs this summer, if we get rezoned, we'll transfer to King Springs. We know several people who work/teach there and it has a great reputation.

Shannon | Teasley
My husband and I have now owned 2 homes in the Teasley district. We made the decision on our second home based on a desire to send our children to Teasley given it's strong reputation. I am thrilled to learn that Cobb will be adding a new school to the Smyrna area. Just please don't cut off your nose to spite your face. Please leave the Teasley district as strong as it is now by including Heritage at Vinings, Devonshire and Oak Ridge Estates. 100% of the Teasley Foundation Board and 87% of Teasley Foundation members come from this and my neighborhood, Paces Ferry Park. We would like to see continuity in Teasley by keeping these neighborhoods that are so involved in the Teasley district.

M Smith | Harmony Leland
Obviously there is a "letter campaign" against Harmony Leland; the parents complaining they are sending their children to private school are obviously so concerned they 'get it right' they are using a form letter to express their wishes. Hopefully the private education you are providing your children with will also teach them to conform to the separate oneness you are so very fond of - or you could choose to show them what citizenship and community involvement means; and let me stress here - this does not mean going to the same pool etc as your friends as that is recreation, not community. Get involved, let them experience some diversity in their life young and perhaps we will have a great tax base for many years to come; or choose the elitist, socially bigoted route you are showing them and you will not understand why the more things change, the more they remain the same when THEY are having this discussion in 25 years. I am of the "privileged" class (and about as far from liberal leaning as you can imagine) and I choose to send my children to a public school that is diverse; I choose to be involved; I choose to educate my children by example as well as curriculum. Try it - you may get a better world for your children to have children in!

Cobb Mom of 4 | Harmony Leland
As a Harmony Leland parent I am confident of the education that my children receive there. CRCT scores are high exceeds and ITBS scores that are 3 to 8 grade equivalents higher than actual grade. These results are from the efforts of a trio: child, parent and teacher. Less tangible, but no less important, are the real life lessons that my children have learned: empathy, motivation and appreciation. Although we are solidly middle class, my children appreciate what I am able to get for them and understand when they can't always get what they want. The money that I don't spend on private school right now is money that can be saved for their college fund, great summer camps and family vacations. If the time comes when I don't feel they are getting a good education or if I have problems that cannot be resolved with the teacher or administration then I won't hesitate to pull my children out. So far that day hasn't come.

Joe | Teasley
It kills me to hear people commenting about the bad school districts in which they decided to purchase a nice house in a nice neighborhood. The 'problem' did not move to you, you moved to the 'problem'. Own your decision; talk about entitlement.

Lisa | Mableton
All these comments about economic issues and race issues is not the problem in these South Cobb schools. The educators or CCSD need to look at what the problems are. I think some of the problems are from students who have no respect for education and children who don't speak english. I understand these children also have the right to an education but these issues need to be addressed without affecting the children who want to learn and who already speak english which is currently not the case because "inclusion" has to occur whether it is good or bad. A teacher shouldn't have to remove all of her students from a classroom because of 2 disruptive kids. These are the issues that are causing the South Cobb schools to not meet AYP and have lower test scores. Redistricting is not going to fix the problem it will just move it around. CCSD needs to address the issues causing parents to choose private school or move to another county. And trust me I am one of those parents. If my children can't learn in the atmosphere they are currently in my only choice as a parent is to find a better environment.

Austell Mom | Austell Intermediate
For all of the residents of East Gate at Vinings Estates, you are zoned for your address not for who you pay your HOA dues to. If you want to be zoned with Vinings Estates then move directly into Vining Estates as opposed to a satellite location.

wordgirl | Austell Intermediate
CCSD DOES NOT GIVE A HOOT ABOUT THE SCHOOLS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN! THEY NEVER HAVE AND THEY NEVER WILL. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME TAKE A RIDE OUT TO EAST COBB AND NORTH COBB AND LOOK AT THEIR H.S. FACILITIES. COMPARE THEM TO OUR SOUTH SIDE H.S. FACILITIES. THEN ASK YOURSELF, WHERE DOES THE SPLOST MONEY GO FOR FACILITIES IMPROVEMENT? IT IS A SCHOOL DISTRICT BIRTHED AND DEVELOPED BASED ON ENTITLEMENT! THE END!!!

Tracee | Teasley
As an active parent of the Teasley Elementary School, I oppose the redistricting of the T31, T23, T6, T15A, and T12 neighborhoods. As a resident of these areas, the safest traffic pattern is to make a right on Atlanta Road as oppose to a left for the public school transportation. In which majority of our students use that is strongly encourage by you to aid in the flow of traffic at the school and to ensure the students are on time each day. Not to mention, Teasley is fortunate to have an abundance of parent volunteers from these neighborhoods that support the school in the classroom, on the PTA and the Foundation boards, and various areas of the school throughout the year. The relationship is personal between these areas and the school because it is a sense of responsibility that is expected of the parents of these neighborhoods as well as our neighbors who support our children at Teasley. Teasley is a unique school that deserves parents that support the mission of the school and are willing to work to maintain the high standards that it has expected of the teachers, staff and students. I am confident that if the areas are rezoned to the new school. It will hurt Teasley, the Smyrna community and the new school. The students of this area will find alternative options for school. Parents will not be vested financially in this area and will begin to look for alternative housing options that provide school districts like Teasley. Instead of rezoning our neighborhoods, please consider the traffic patterns for our students in these neighborhoods. But, most of all please consider the parent volunteers and the relationship of the parents in these neighborhoods. We want to send our children to public schools to build relationships in our community and to help Smyrna to continue to flourish, this is evident at Teasley. Thank you for allowing us to voice our opinion.

cw | Powder Springs
Why don't the school district just say if you live with a 5 mile circle radius of this high school then you attend the feeder schools that feed into that school. They send us to powder springs elem. cooper middle then mceachern but we live closer to tapp and bypass it on the buses to go 3 extra miles to cooper. Quit wasting taxpayers money on gas and such and look at the lines most economically.

MomOf2 | Powder Springs
I sold my house and moved to the school district where I wanted my children to attend. If you are not happy with the area/schools where you live, I invite you to do the same. You can blame no one but yourselves if you are unhappy with where you are. It is true that all Cobb schools are not equal. It is also true that not all parent involvement and student commitment are equal either. Move to where you feel your child will get the best education. Make it happen for your kids.

The Walker Family | Clarkdale
Redistricting will be challenging, but we feel that it would be good. Harmony Leland is a good school that is where we were for about two years. It is almost as good as being in a private education. Sometimes I wish we still there. Also Clarkdale needed to be rebuilt and will be so get over it. Not only did it need an outter facelift, an internal makeover also. If you want to be redistricted and feel your voice is not being heard...be part of the solution and go get a petition going. Think outside the box. Smyrna people write letters to your rep and Harmony Leland's rep and their superiors. Pound the pavement and make change occur...

Crystal | Harmony Leland
I am in full support of the proposed districting posted on the website. It shows my neighborhood (EastGate at Vinings Estates) being grouped together with the rest of our neighborhood (Vinings Estates). Our families share the same recreational facilities, social activities and Home Owners Association. It only makes sense that our children, who have grown up together, should be able to attend the same school. These bonds help to make the school and community stronger and parent participation stronger as well.

Tanya Kothari | Harmony Leland
I am in full support of the proposed districting posted on the website. It shows my neighborhood (EastGate at Vinings Estates) being grouped together with the rest of our neighborhood (Vinings Estates). Our families share the same recreational facilities, social activities and Home Owners Association. It only makes sense that our children, who have grown up together, should be able to attend the same school. These bonds help to make the school and community stronger and parent participation stronger as well.

Katie | Harmony Leland
I am in full support of the proposed districting posted on the website. It shows my neighborhood (EastGate at Vinings Estates) finally being grouped together with the rest of our neighborhood (Vinings Estates). Given that our families share the same recreational facilities, social activities and Home Owners Association. It only makes sense that our children, who have grown up together, should be able to attend the same school. These bonds help to make the school and community stronger and parent participation stronger as well.

Liz | Harmony Leland
I am in full support of the proposed districting posted on the website. It shows my neighborhood (EastGate at Vinings Estates) being grouped together with the rest of our neighborhood (Vinings Estates). Our families share the same recreational facilities, social activities and Home Owners Association. It only makes sense that our children, who have grown up together, should be able to attend the same school. These bonds help to make the school and community stronger and parent participation stronger as well.

Amy | Harmony Leland
I am in full support of the proposed districting posted on the website. It shows my neighborhood (EastGate at Vinings Estates) being grouped together with the rest of our neighborhood (Vinings Estates). Our families share the same recreational facilities, social activities and Home Owners Association. It only makes sense that our children, who have grown up together, should be able to attend the same school. These bonds help to make the school and community stronger and parent participation stronger as well.

Concerned | Teasley
Recently I heard Teasley enrollment is over 790 students! It is my understanding that this school is built (with its last expansion) for 400-500 students. Where will all of these students stand, sit, eat? Much less learn?

Jean | Harmony Leland
The Retreat at Old Vinings Lake does not support Harmony Leland as a whole. Most of the families opt for private schools over sending their children to HL. I believe that if our district changes, more families would opt for public schools and therefore provide additional time and support to the public school system. Our neighborhood shares a lot of amenities and social activities with neighborhoods districted for Nickajack and would welcome a district change to that school. A lot of the families in our neighborhood also commute that direction and have younger children in childcare facilities that direction making it easier for commuting purposes. In addition, the Nickajack district line is just outside of our neighborhood which would make the district change more feasible (meaning we are not asking you to redistrict numerous neighborhoods between us and Nickajack to make this possible). Please consider redistricting The Retreat at Old Vinings Lake.

Irritated Citizen | Fair Oaks
Here's a concept: DON'T BUY A NICE HOUSE IN A SUBDIVISION LOCATED IN A SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT YOU DON'T LIKE. Why should we have to scramble around and re-draw school lines because you chose a nice, pretty house over your child's education? Instead of buying the nicest house you can afford, do your research and buy a decent home in the district you want if you want your child to be in that school so badly. Geez, talk about a sense of entitlement. @East Gate at Vinings residents: Really, with the copy-and-paste form letters? Can't you think for yourselves and form your own opinions?

Irritated Citizen | Fair Oaks
Here's a concept: DON'T BUY A NICE HOUSE IN A SUBDIVISION LOCATED IN A SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT YOU DON'T LIKE. Why should we have to scramble around and re-draw school lines because you chose a nice, pretty house over your child's education? Instead of buying the nicest house you can afford, do your research and buy a decent home in the district you want if you want your child to be in that school so badly. Geez, talk about a sense of entitlement. @East Gate at Vinings residents: Really, with the copy-and-paste form letters? Can't you think for yourselves and form your own opinions?

NB | Teasley
It all boils down to economics. I would respect the board and the parents more if they just said it. You do not want minority students in yor school in mass numbers. You do not believe that all children can learn and you would rather that you lived in East Cobb, but you bought your house here instead. School board you should be very ashamed of the way the south part of the school district is treated. Just take a driving tour of schools her and in other parts of Cobb. No comparison. We get the short end of the stick all the time. When will you stop making decisions that are in the best interest of all children and not just based on zip code.

DD | Sanders
In agreement with S.T., we live in Mableton but zoned for Sanders (Austell). Mableton ES. is closer to our subdivision off Clay Rd. Please consider making the change from Sanders to Mableton ES for all subdivisions off Clay Rd. between Brookwood Dr. and Clay Road.

DD | Sanders
In agreement with S.T., we live in Mableton but zoned for Sanders (Austell). Mableton ES. is closer to our subdivision off Clay Rd. Please consider making the change from Sanders to Mableton ES for all subdivisions off Clay Rd. between Brookwood Dr. and Austell Rd.

mm | King Springs
How about giving us the old calender back, the one that was approved for 3 years then all of a sudden revoked....!!!

ST | Hollydale
Please redistrict the subdivisions on Powder Springs Rd. to Hillgrove or McEachern and NOT Osborne. These high schools are much closer and does not make sense that we should have to travel furthur for the kids to have the SAME PUBLIC EDUCATION,IF ALL SCHOOLS ARE EQUAL.

D Cook | Nickajack
I am in full support of the proposed districting posted on the website. It shows my neighborhood (EastGate at Vinings Estates) being grouped together with the rest of our neighborhood (Vinings Estates). Our families share the same recreational facilities, social activities and Home Owners Association. It only makes sense that our children, who have grown up together, should be able to attend the same school. These bonds help to make the school and community stronger and parent participation stronger as well.

S.T. | Sanders
@Irritated Citizen - From the CCSD: "PLEASE DO NOT make a home purchasing decision based on these charts alone!" Hence, we buy homes where we want because you can always get redistricted as is the case now. We aren't demanding it, only simply voicing our opinions on what we think makes more sense.

HLES Parent | Harmony Leland
""""""I am in full support of the proposed districting posted on the website. It shows my neighborhood (EastGate at Vinings Estates) finally being grouped together with the rest of our neighborhood (Vinings Estates). Given that our families share the same recreational facilities, social activities and Home Owners Association. It only makes sense that our children, who have grown up together, should be able to attend the same school. These bonds help to make the school and community stronger and parent participation stronger as well.""""""" Crystal, Tanya, Katie, Liz, and Amy posted the same comment. What are we to read from that tactic? I hope that that kind of originality does not redound to HLES, we need people that have their own identity.

Frustrated Mom of 1 | Harmony Leland
TO ALL: You all are blind if you believe any of what’s being communicated in this forum. The problem is not demographics, race, zoning or re-zoning. These issues are mere smoke screens created to prevent you from seeing the real issue. The issue first and foremost on any level of county, city, state and/or federal government is M-O-N-E-Y. The educational system in Georgia has convinced many of you that unless you are in an economically advantaged area (East Cobb) for example or an area devoid of ethnicity, that your child’s education will not be adequate and that you should not expect more. It’s one of the oldest tactical maneuvers in combat. Divide and conquer. Instead of dealing with the educational deficiencies, we are now fighting racial, economic and demographic battles that wouldn’t exist if the school system were not dysfunctional. There is nothing wrong with where you live. There is nothing wrong with having multi-cultural communities, and there is nothing wrong with not being able to afford to live in a $300k plus house because the schools in that area are viewed to be better than those in surrounding areas. The problem is that the school system has failed us. It has failed to provide equal and adequate education for our children. This fight should not be amongst us, the community. It should be the community against the educational system and we should insist that this wrong be made right. We, the citizens of all Georgia Counties, are entitled to the same quality education as the rest of our country. Yet we remain well below the national average and have for many, many years. This is not new and it is not fair to us or our children. The fact that most of you have come to the same conclusion that the problem is with zoning, race, economics, etc. indicates the majority of you had a very below average Public School Education. The fact that some of you may have achieved a level success despite the lack of a proper education makes you lucky at best, but do you really want to risk your children being so lucky? Get your heads out of the sand and start insisting that our State provides our children with an adequate education so that they may compete with others in other parts of the country when the time comes. If you have problems with the school you’re zoned for, start contacting the representative and board members to demand answers and change. Let’s not fight each other. We’re all in the same boat. Let’s kill the Shark. Sincerely Frustrated Parent of 1

Frustrated Mom of 1 | Harmony Leland
PS: Since almost all if not all of the school in this zoning district are title 1, Here’s a little info from their website. Pay particular attention to item #4 and #5. Lets hold them accountable. TITLE I--IMPROVING THE ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT OF THE DISADVANTAGED SEC. 1001. STATEMENT OF PURPOSE. The purpose of this title is to ensure that all children have a fair, equal, and significant opportunity to obtain a high-quality education and reach, at a minimum, proficiency on challenging State academic achievement standards and state academic assessments. This purpose can be accomplished by — (1) ensuring that high-quality academic assessments, accountability systems, teacher preparation and training, curriculum, and instructional materials are aligned with challenging State academic standards so that students, teachers, parents, and administrators can measure progress against common expectations for student academic achievement; (2) meeting the educational needs of low-achieving children in our Nation's highest-poverty schools, limited English proficient children, migratory children, children with disabilities, Indian children, neglected or delinquent children, and young children in need of reading assistance; (3) closing the achievement gap between high- and low-performing children, especially the achievement gaps between minority and nonminority students, and between disadvantaged children and their more advantaged peers; (4) holding schools, local educational agencies, and States accountable for improving the academic achievement of all students, and identifying and turning around low-performing schools that have failed to provide a high-quality education to their students, while providing alternatives to students in such schools to enable the students to receive a high-quality education; (5) distributing and targeting resources sufficiently to make a difference to local educational agencies and schools where needs are greatest; (6) improving and strengthening accountability, teaching, and learning by using State assessment systems designed to ensure that students are meeting challenging State academic achievement and content standards and increasing achievement overall, but especially for the disadvantaged; (7) providing greater decisionmaking authority and flexibility to schools and teachers in exchange for greater responsibility for student performance; (8) providing children an enriched and accelerated educational program, including the use of schoolwide programs or additional services that increase the amount and quality of instructional time; (9) promoting schoolwide reform and ensuring the access of children to effective, scientifically based instructional strategies and challenging academic content; (10) significantly elevating the quality of instruction by providing staff in participating schools with substantial opportunities for professional development; (11) coordinating services under all parts of this title with each other, with other educational services, and, to the extent feasible, with other agencies providing services to youth, children, and families; and (12) affording parents substantial and meaningful opportunities to participate in the education of their children.

Hana | Harmony Leland
I am in full support of the proposed districting posted on the website. It shows my neighborhood (EastGate at Vinings Estates) being grouped together with the rest of our neighborhood (Vinings Estates). Our families share the same recreational facilities, social activities and Home Owners Association. It only makes sense that our children, who have grown up together, should be able to attend the same school. These bonds help to make the school and community stronger and parent participation stronger as well.

Cawanna McMichael | Harmony Leland
I would like comment in strong defense of Harmony Leland Elementary School. I moved from South Florida to East Gate of Vining Estates and was shocked initially that my son would attend Harmony Leland as opposed to Nickajack. I initially considered placing him into private school at Whitefield but in my better judgement, I went to meet the staff of Harmony Leland and did a research of their score which in some areas as of late have been higher that Nickajack. I would like to say that this school, for one is a GREAT school, and the principal as well as the staff are doing great things. My son started kindergarten and is now in first grade, he is performing well above standards for his age, is in his second year of violin through YAMS at the school, and will be auditioning for a for drama/chorus through YAMS this year, as well as taking piano after school. The staff here really cares about ALL of the students and honestly I think it is a shame that we are the almost the only ones who support this school because in the past it has had the stigma of being a "BAD" school. There current principal has completely turned that school around and we are winning awards as a result. My son has made friends with many children of all type of races and nationalities as well as socio-economic statuses. Parent Involvement is very high at Harmony Leland and as a new family we have made many connections with people with the same values of dignity, integrity, and honesty. Please before you judge a school based on what people are saying go by during school hours and see the AWESOME things that are taking place at Harmony Leland, as we are not receiving anything subpar to Nickajack or another school within Cobb County.

Elizabeth | Harmony Leland
Our fight should be to make the schools in all areas, specifically Cobb County, offer equal opportunity for learning to all children. So if/when redistricting does occur, the impact on our children (the ones who really matter) is slim to none.

PD | Sanders
I live in Mableton but zoned for Sanders (Austell). Mableton ES. is closer to our subdivision off Clay Rd. Please consider making the change from Sanders to Mableton ES for all subdivisions off Clay Rd. between Brookwood Dr. and Austell Rd.

EastGate Parent | Nickajack
My child has made friends in our neighborhood and outside in the big neighborhood (V.E.). We do pay for the same facilities and share Homeowners Association. Our children should go to school together! It's ridiculous they haven't already corrected this problem. I'm sorry if this lacks originality, sometimes common sense isn't all that original. There are many reasons I prefer Nickajack, and none have to do with money. I don't want my child trapped in a school building that is old and frankly needs some severe renovations. They could easily get PTA or some other community organization out there to clean up the campus and donate flowers, shrubs and other items to help create a more hospitable space. I have toured both schools; Nickajack is far nicer in the fact that everyone in that school takes such pride in their environment. Teachers, staff and administration set a beautiful example for their DIVERSE students by working together to create a striking sense of community. Not to mention the principal and vice-principal make a fabulous team! Beverly Parks is one of the classiest and fair minded women I have ever run into; she takes her job seriously but also has a sense of humor and grace that far surpass any principal I have met in the past and I am a Cobb County graduate myself. Also, a huge consideration is the Nickajack PTA and Nickajack Foundation members. These parents work very hard to make sure every SINGLE student in that school has a voice no matter what neighborhood they live in (and don't kid yourself that they all come from V.E.; they come from apartment complexes, the local shelters and even a few motels) The NES foundation started last year and they have already raised enough money to hire a certified computer lab teacher. This money wasn’t raised because they all just wrote a check; they got out in the community and talked up their school, they hit up businesses and partnered with corporations all over the Smyrna community. It was through a grassroots campaign they were able to achieve this feat. I want to participate in a school where my efforts will be more than just knocking my head against a brick wall. Just because Nickajack has some larger neighborhoods connected to it does not mean its better because of money. Not every parent volunteering in that school lives in a 300K plus house. And PS BY THE WAY not every parent at Nickajack that lives in an expensive house PARTICIPATES. Nickajack is a very diverse school both in ethnicity and soci-economic status, my child will not only get to be exposed to all types of cultures but a fantastic first impression of what a true community means. PS. REDOUND? not a word.

Parent | Hollydale
As a parent, I don't understand why the board members are not removed from their position when their school has not passed the AYP. Osborne High School has never passed the AYP and the board still has this school open. Some one needs to be accountable. Maybe the school should close and the kids should be redistrict to other High Schools. This is so sad. The board sends some of the kids to other schools with the no child left behind bill but others stay because of personal reasons. I think they should look at those board members. If a teacher doesn't perform they are let go so why not the board members? Cobb county needs to think about the children.

Frustrated Mom of 1 | Harmony Leland
CAN YOU SAY "ACCOUNTABILITY"? Please, Please, Please, for the sake of our children, let's hold the board members, school administrators and teachers accountable. THE TIME HAS COME. If you're interested in making a difference, please email me for more information at: makethemaccountable@hotmail.com

Sky View Parent | Sky View
At the first meeting one of the reasons for rezoning was a better economic position for the county and improving learning for our students. However, no new facilities or programs are being proposed for learning, only larger schools. How is a larger school a better learning environment? The small neighborhood school provides an opportunity for kids to learn in classrooms that are smaller with teachers that have better opportunities for one on one teaching. Our school while small makes AYP and has a very low turnover rate for teachers. Our teachers and staff care about the development of our children, not saying larger schools don't care, but don't take away a valuable part of the community to save the county a few dollars in administrative costs. Consider the value of the school, not just the size, come talk to the parents of our schools and find out what we really want, don't just believe bigger is better.

Anjanette | Harmony Leland
As an Africian American parent and homeowner in The Retreat at Old Lake Vinings, I'm sadden by the community's reasons why our children need to be redistricted to Nickajack. I agree with several other postings listed here....its definitely racial and socioeconomic related. At the end of the day who really cares which park your child plays in and which pool they swim. If it's really about what's in the best interest of your child then support to school they attend and make it a better place for ALL children....not just yours!!!

K.P. | Sanders
To those of you wishing your zone was not at Sanders because Mableton is closer, what do you plan to do when your children move to middle and high school, as that they redistrict your subdivision again at YOUR convenience? Zoning and district's aren't based off of which school is closer, but population and bus routes. In middle school I was in Garrett's district, but Floyd was closer, so I found a new way to school. If Mableton is closer to you, find a way to get your child there, or just deal with they was the CCSD does things. (This is not meant to offend anyone)

EG | Harmony Leland
The county really needs to evaluate the growing number of people in the various communities. Is there any type of information about how many people live in these various areas? That should be a major factor in where new schools are developed and what schools are updated. It seems like certain schools have smaller districts. Harmony Leland has a huge area and it is a very small school with many portables. Yet, it isn't one of the schools that is being updated. I hope the county is not building for today, but for tomorrow.

Parent | Nickajack
I understand that redistricting for the elementary school is necessary. However, I ask that you keep the feeder schools the same. If you redistrict a child away from Nickajack, at least keep them at King Springs or Teasley since the middle school and high school feeder pattern is the same. I think it would make the transition easier on everyone since there is a familiarity with the feeder schools. This goes for anyone in the district. Completely changing feeder patterns will cause more of an uproar than anything. Please take this into consideration!!!

Former ROVL Resident | Harmony Leland
After reading the various posts from my former neighbors on here, I am compelled to support the neighborhood's effort to be redistricted to Nickajack. HL is overcrowded and no expansion is planned anytime soon, and the traffic pattern from the neighborhood (taking a right on Cooper Lake Road) is predominant. In regards to the comments citing racial/socioeconomic criteria, that cannot be considered in redistricting. However, it is fair to say that in my experience, it is the level of parental involvement that is one of the largest determinants in the success of a school. This level of parent involvement does not and should not favor one race over another. So that our daughter is free to pray and practice her religion in school, we have chosen to send her to a small, solidly middle-class religious school. In this school, where all races are represented, at least half of the parents both work full-time. That being said, parental involvement is MANDATORY, not optional. If you can't make it to school during the day, there are opportunities on weekends/evenings to paint the classrooms (done entirely by parent volunteers), landscape the school (done entirely by working dads and their Girl Scout daughters as a service project), feed the fish in the outdoor science lab (constructed entirely by working dad volunteers), take pictures for the yearbook, paint scenery for the Christmas pageant, coach sports, and send in homemade food for our monthly teacher appreciation lunches. No one, irrespective of race, income level, work commitments, and frankly, desire to be involved, etc., is given a free pass. They believe that everyone can do something to support the school and I am in full support of that. This level of parent involvement also builds community, so people are neighbors and friends and not anonymous faces in the carpool line. I would hope that ALL of the parents in the Retreat get together as a group to demand the high level of parent involvement in whatever school their district dictates.

Parent | Harmony Leland
First, let me say I am not a parent of a child at any of the schools in question. However I have been through redistricting before and I am very involved in the schools in various capacities as a parent. There are three very important parts to a childs education. Yes the teachers are one important part. However the student attitude, and the parents educational background and attitude are just as important as the teachers. You can have the absolute best teachers, but if the student and / or parents are not willing to take advantage of these great opportunities, it is NOT the teachers or the counties fault. I have seen this numerous times. Parents, GET INVOLVED in the schools, and mentor your children in having a good attitude about learning and getting an education and doing their homework. Students with bad attitudes need positive role models ( PARENTS :)) who encourage them to do their homework and do their best every day. Positive attitudes can overcome a lot of academic issues when there is a WILLINGESS to learn. When I help in the classroom, and look at students homework, it is SO OBVIOUS, as to which students parents are involved in their education, and which parents are not involved. I urge ALL of the parents to get involved with the school, even if in a small capacity due to work obligations. Being involved in any capacity at the school, even with the fun festivals and things that can accommoodate working schedules, or going in on your lunch hour to read a book to your childs class, teaches your child that education and school is important to you as a parent. Kids follow examples, not words. Please get involved for your childs sake - you will see a difference in your childs attitude over a short amount of time when they see their loving parents getting involved in their education!

Brenda | Sky View
I want to know when is the second public forum for Redistricting Mableton Elementary scheduled. Originally was for September but it was cancel.

Tavares | Harmony Leland
I agree with the eastgate homeowners. They should be redistricted with the rest of Vinings Estates. They should all be redistricted to Harmony-Leland. Why, if you love the area, then you should invest to make it better. Start the same grass roots programs at HLES. Does Nickajack have All Pro Dads? If so great, so does HLES particpate at that school. Participate at the school you are in and make it better for everyone. It all starts with pride. I can't tell you how much pride I have seen at HLES and how much it would grow if people didn't feel "forced" to send their kids elsewhere. You feel forced because you are ashamed and too lazy to make HLES into a school you would be proud to tell your friends in East Cobb, Johns Creek and Milton about. It's amazing the point people keep trying to make about diversity. If you really cared, you would see how diverse HLES is, not much difference than Nickajack. If you really looked at the scores, you would notice how close the scores between the schools are. If you think your children are better than the kids there, send them there and raise the scores. Stop making excuses, make the schools better. Or you can help keep the school pride up and stay away and let the rest of us show off our pride.

Bill | Mableton
When will the proposals for redistricting be released to the public? They were supposed to be released by now, right?

Blair | Sky View
when are the proposed redistricting maps are going to be posted?

Cobb Mom of 4 | Harmony Leland
I spoke with someone at BOE on Sept 21st and was told they would be released within 2 weeks.....I wonder if they are even reading these posts?

Bill | Mableton
I called the CCSD today to look for some guidance and pressed zero for the operator as prompted. I was immediately put through to a voice mailbox, but the recording warned me that the person at that extension had not activated the voice mail. Unreal.

Cobbmom2 | Nickajack
I heard through through the grapevine today that they have not decided which school they are closing. Therefore nothing has been released yet.

Parent | Sky View
Rumors abound that Skyview will be closing and headed to the new Mableton--who will head this new Mableton-this school will be so large and will be a Title I school and will need great leadership-not like the leadership in place at Mableton currently. People speak up and be heard-we need a very experienced leader for this school.

Parent | Sanders
Sanders parents beware, you will not be rezoned to Mableton---Skyview will get closed and all those children will go to the new Mableton and will open with those 400 from Skyview and the 450 from Mableton and story over. Don't ever believe that our BOE listens to their stakeholders...they hardly listen to themselves.

Cobb Stakeholder | Russell
All of this will be over soon-David Banks is holding his "Town Hall Meeting" this weekend, and I feel that by next week the announcements will be made of who moves where. Our BOE will announce it and say live with it and close the door to any other discussion, as they do with all of their votes. Hopefully, our voices will have been heard, but doubtful if the BOE cares......